Ian Plimer at it again with his volcano crap.

Got an email containing the latest pile of dung by Ian Plimer, a man who claims the Iceland volcano and not human activity is to blame for climate change.

From Media Watch:

Prof. Ian Plimer: … we humans only put out about three per cent of the annual emissions of carbon dioxide. The rest comes from all sorts of other things, including volcanoes.

— Radio 2GB, The Jason Morrison Drive Show, 19th April, 2010

And here’s one he didn’t mention: volcano expert Dr Fred Jourdan of Curtin University told Media Watch:

… it has been shown by the US Geological Survey that current emissions from volcanoes are being dwarfed by human emissions to a ratio of 1/130…

— Response from Fred Jourdan (Prof. of Applied Geology, Curtin University of Technology), 28th April, 2010

And another little tidbit:

Here’s another fact from Dr Jourdan…

The eruption in Iceland emitted a fairly small amount of CO2. In fact most recent estimates show that the flights that were grounded by the eruption would have emitted about twice as much CO2 as the volcano itself.

— Response from Fred Jourdan (Prof. of Applied Geology, Curtin University of Technology), 30th April, 2010

According to Wikipedia:

In the late 1990s, Plimer went to court alleging misleading and deceptive advertising under the Trade Practices Act 1974 against Ark searcher Allen Roberts,[58][59] arising from Plimer’s attacks on Roberts’ claims concerning the location of Noah’s Ark. Before the trial, Plimer was forcibly ejected by police from public meetings at which Roberts spoke.[55] The court ruled that Roberts had indeed made false and misleading claims on two of 16 instances cited by Plimer, Plimer had failed to show the other 14, and the two were minor enough to not require remedy, so Plimer lost the case,[61][62][63] and was ordered to pay his own and Roberts’ legal costs estimated at over 500,000 Australian dollars.

The New Yorker magazine published in late December/early January an interesting story of Miami being under seige from increasing water levels. See this post.

If you get the email shown below, just throw in the trash where it belongs.

The beginning of the smelly email:

Ian Rutherford Plimer (born 12 February 1946) is an Australian geologist,
academic and businessman, and professor of mining geology at the University
of Adelaide . You will appreciate his take on climate change
(aka: global warming).

Professor Ian Plimer could not have said it better! If you’ve read his book
you will agree, this is a good summary.

Are you sitting down?

Okay, here’s the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland , since its
first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE
EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our
planet – all of you.

The email letter continues on with more confusing, misleading and untrutruthful content.

15 thoughts on “Ian Plimer at it again with his volcano crap.

  1. “Prof. Ian Plimer: … we humans only put out about three per cent of the annual emissions of carbon dioxide. The rest comes from all sorts of other things, including volcanoes.”

    You spent alot of time and energy disproving Plimers claim but he’s still correct, humans put out only 3% of total CO2 emissions. The earth produces 33 times more C02 every year than all of humanity combined.

    Cheers

      • Here’s some info to start your search for proof….

        Of the 186 billion tons of carbon from CO2 that enter earth’s atmosphere each year from all sources, only 6 billion tons are from human activity. Approximately 90 billion tons come from biologic activity in earth’s oceans and another 90 billion tons from such sources as volcanoes and decaying land plants.
        http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html#anchor2108263

      • Thank you, Terry, for your reply and the link but you and others seem to believe my original post was discussing global warming or CO2 estimates. The original post was commenting upon the email I received, and the ludicrous ‘facts’ attributed to Plimer within the email regarding the Icelandic volcano.

        Please refer to the section by Fred Jordon in my original post:
        “… it has been shown by the US Geological Survey that current emissions from volcanoes are being dwarfed by human emissions to a ratio of 1/130…”

        — Response from Fred Jourdan (Prof. of Applied Geology, Curtin University of Technology), 28th April, 2010

        And another little tidbit:

        Here’s another fact from Dr Jourdan…

        “The eruption in Iceland emitted a fairly small amount of CO2. In fact most recent estimates show that the flights that were grounded by the eruption would have emitted about twice as much CO2 as the volcano itself.”

        — Response from Fred Jourdan (Prof. of Applied Geology, Curtin University of Technology), 30th April, 2010

        Please note the use of the word ‘current’.

        Terry, I admire your enthusiasm for the debate on global warming, but my original post was about the silly email and Plimer’s statements regarding the Icelandic volcano.

  2. I have read that many times on the web, including Wikipedia but am not finding it anymore. I got that 3% directly from a US Dept of Energy report published a few years ago. I used to be able to find that report easily on the net but have not been able to find it as yet.

    So I got this instead, it says “Anthropogenic (man-made) CO2 additions comprise (11,880 / 370,484) or 3.207% of all greenhouse gas concentrations, (ignoring water vapor).”

    I beleive this quote was taken from the same US DE report.

    Reference: http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

    Cheers

  3. We seem to be getting off topic, which was the email, and are now talking about percentages of man-made CO2 versus naturally generated CO2.

    The email is attempting to use scare tactics and unsupported statements as a self-serving platform for his opinions and perhaps garner more speaking engagements or sales of his book.

    Plimer made a statement that “The volcanic eruption in Iceland , since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet – all of you.”

    The key words in his statement are “control CO2”. One could make the same statement using cow flatulence instead of volcano. Countries have made little progress in controlling CO2 during the past five years.

    I stand by the statements of Fred Jourdan, including this one: “The eruption in Iceland emitted a fairly small amount of CO2. In fact most recent estimates show that the flights that were grounded by the eruption would have emitted about twice as much CO2 as the volcano itself.”

    External links on greenhouse gas:
    http://www.eia.gov/oiaf/1605/ggccebro/chapter1.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas#Natural_and_anthropogenic_sources
    Fred Jourdan reply to ABC Television Australia: http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/1013_jourdan.pdf

    • People always watch out for these type of statements. Throw up red flags when you see them:

      “most recent estimates”
      “studies have shown”
      “Doctor approved”
      “We can beat any price or your mattress is free”

      When someone is making a case and uses statements like these, always look for the source of the “estimates” or “studies”. If they are not cited, do not believe anything being stated.

  4. Dont waster time arguing with Summerfield. He’s obviously a pro-Gore Liberal Demorcrat and we all know they are well versed in the art of disengenuous conversational retaliation. Not worth it.

    • I looked at your link. The title is: Iceland volcano causes fall in carbon emissions as eruption grounds aircraft.

      Cooling effect from volcano ash cloud will be ‘very insignificant’, but flight ban stops emission of estimated 2.8m tonnes of CO2.

      So you agree with me then. Thank you.

      • Actually Ted, your post should have read: “Ted Summerfield at it again with his global warming and CO2 crap”. You are just another unqualified dribbler in denial.

      • Peter Wang is wrong on at least 2 points: First, I am not now a ‘dribbler’ and haven’t been since I was five months old. Second, if I were a dribbler how could I possibly deny being such when there would be dribble running down my lip and chin. To deny being a dribbler when there is dribble running down ones’ chin would be tantamount to denying the existence of global warming when there is so much scientific evidence indicating there is global warming.

  5. Interesting reading…..CO2 discussions, for goodness sake commensence, earth changes, naturally, just like it did with the ice age, though this is only theory, as NO ONE really knows, as there is no one alive from then to give the truth!!!!……assuming anything is very dangerous Carbon emission talk gives excuse for governement to try a con the carbon tax onto consumers it is just revenue raising for incompetent governments. Good place to start is to have the UN intervene and have their view and to include the biggest emitters to the fold such as china and india…….poor little old australia….what a joke.

  6. Water vapour as a greenhouse gas overwhelms CO2 by at least 40:1, simple concebtration measurements demonstrtate this. Indeed our crops would grow better if the concentration went up. As commented, nobody has a correct global warming or cooling picture, at the moment itis just too complex. BUT, there is a lot of money to be made by scaring the hell out of the population, then coming along like a white knight and offering to save the world, at a price. Not a lot of money in offering to reduce water vapour!!!

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